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Baja Rally just changed requirement from 800 cc+ to 689cc+ in ADV Pro Class

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Cruizin

Thanks to @Camel ADV for sharing this news on Facebook.

 

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Baja Rally just changed the engine displacement requirement in the ADV Pro class from 800cc and up to 689cc and up (twin cylinder only) which opens it up to the 790R and T7.

 

This is great news.  So, I just created this Rally Racing section here on the forum.  NOTE: this section is for actual Rally Racing, not weekend Rally rides.  Rally rides can be announced in Regional section and you can also create calendar events.  

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Ktmmitch

Did the Baja Rally 4 years ago with a bunch of us from the UK, I rode KTM 690

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Camel ADV

I signed up early tonight.

Decision time... T7 or 790R. Stock for stock, the 790R is the bike for this hands down but now that I have the suspension swap done on the T7, it's no longer a foregone conclusion. 

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Camel ADV
4 minutes ago, Ktmmitch said:

Did the Baja Rally 4 years ago with a bunch of us from the UK, I rode KTM 690

I was there in 2016 as well. I was pitting for two ADV Pro riders; Casey Hillard and Brian Englund. It's a great event.


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Cruizin
4 minutes ago, Camel ADV said:

I signed up early tonight.

Decision time... T7 or 790R. Stock for stock, the 790R is the bike for this hands down but now that I have the suspension swap done on the T7, it's no longer a foregone conclusion. 

We are of course biased on this topic, lol. Would love to see you race on the T7. Will support you either way!

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Camel ADV
10 minutes ago, Cruizin said:

We are of course biased on this topic, lol. Would love to see you race on the T7. Will support you either way!

If I can figure out a way to export this euro T7 to Mexico instead of keeping it's date with the crusher, that's an easy decision!

 

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T7lee

What was the reason for the change?

 

Just sitting here watching the 2019 morroco desert challange for the umteenth time wondering if I'm good enough to run something this serious

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Cruizin
8 hours ago, Camel ADV said:

If I can figure out a way to export this euro T7 to Mexico instead of keeping it's date with the crusher, that's an easy decision!

 

Yamaha says to take it to the crusher? That's crazy 

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Camel ADV
12 hours ago, T7lee said:

What was the reason for the change?

 

Just sitting here watching the 2019 morroco desert challange for the umteenth time wondering if I'm good enough to run something this serious

The rule was put in place in 2013(?) when the ADV Expert class (now called ADV Pro) was created. At that time, there were no middle weight bikes. They set it at +800cc-1000cc to include the F800gs, Tiger, 950/990 etc but exclude the 690/701 etec as well as the 1200cc class bikes. The max 1000cc rule got dropped pretty early but the +800cc has remained.

The T7 and 790 are perfect bike for this class but neither were eligible due to the cc rule. I emailed Victor (the race director) on Sunday to ask if they were going to change the rules to allow these bike, he said they were already discussing it and they'd have a decision on Tuesday... and they did. The new rule is +700cc and up, twin cylinder. I made a point of asking about the T7 @ 689cc and he said basically the front end of their website says +700cc plus but the fine print will be 689cc.

 

 

5 hours ago, Cruizin said:

Yamaha says to take it to the crusher? That's crazy 

Yamaha has nothing to do with it. It's 100% my bike but it's here on a 12 month temporary import permit. When that expires, it has to be crushed or exported, no if, ands, or buts.

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2 hours ago, Camel ADV said:

The rule was put in place in 2013(?) when the ADV Expert class (now called ADV Pro) was created. At that time, there were no middle weight bikes. They set it at +800cc-1000cc to include the F800gs, Tiger, 950/990 etc but exclude the 690/701 etec as well as the 1200cc class bikes. The max 1000cc rule got dropped pretty early but the +800cc has remained.

The T7 and 790 are perfect bike for this class but neither were eligible due to the cc rule. I emailed Victor (the race director) on Sunday to ask if they were going to change the rules to allow these bike, he said they were already discussing it and they'd have a decision on Tuesday... and they did. The new rule is +700cc and up, twin cylinder. I made a point of asking about the T7 @ 689cc and he said basically the front end of their website says +700cc plus but the fine print will be 689cc.

 

 

Yamaha has nothing to do with it. It's 100% my bike but it's here on a 12 month temporary import permit. When that expires, it has to be crushed or exported, no if, ands, or buts.

Sad to do away with a perfectly good bike. 

I know when a certain you tube rider got from india to europe on a indian registered himalaya royal enfield did a straight swap and gave her a european model to use. 

Nothing yamaha can do for you in way of a favour? 

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49 minutes ago, T7lee said:

Sad to do away with a perfectly good bike. 

I know when a certain you tube rider got from india to europe on a indian registered himalaya royal enfield did a straight swap and gave her a european model to use. 

Nothing yamaha can do for you in way of a favour? 

It has zero to do with Yamaha and everything to do with federal government regulations. When all the bike and car manufacturers bring in non Canadian spec vehicles for shows, they come in on the same import permit I have. They all have to export or crush their vehicles too. All the T7s Yamaha brought in for the bike shows this spring  got crushed. All the 790 ADVs KTM brought in for shows last year, all crushed. All of the manufacturers have to do this, it is what it is.

I knew this when I bought and imported it and I'm good with it... everyone else seems to be far more bothered than I am. Importing this bike given me a HUGE head start on products for Camel, it's served it's purpose and owes me nothing. It sucks that it can't say here but one way or another, it going away. I have a Canadian spec T7 here so all the aftermarket parts will get swapped over to it and the Euro bike will meet it's fate whether that's getting exported to Mexico and raced or it gets crushed here.
 

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1 hour ago, Camel ADV said:

It has zero to do with Yamaha and everything to do with federal government regulations. When all the bike and car manufacturers bring in non Canadian spec vehicles for shows, they come in on the same import permit I have. They all have to export or crush their vehicles too. All the T7s Yamaha brought in for the bike shows this spring  got crushed. All the 790 ADVs KTM brought in for shows last year, all crushed. All of the manufacturers have to do this, it is what it is.

I knew this when I bought and imported it and I'm good with it... everyone else seems to be far more bothered than I am. Importing this bike given me a HUGE head start on products for Camel, it's served it's purpose and owes me nothing. It sucks that it can't say here but one way or another, it going away. I have a Canadian spec T7 here so all the aftermarket parts will get swapped over to it and the Euro bike will meet it's fate whether that's getting exported to Mexico and raced or it gets crushed here.
 

How much to import to USA? I would think that someone here would happily pay to buy your Bike. But then again, they probably couldn't register it, huh? 

 

You could do like Klinger from the old show "Mash" and ship it one part at a time to Mexico. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cruizin said:

How much to import to USA? I would think that someone here would happily pay to buy your Bike. But then again, they probably couldn't register it, huh? 

 

You could do like Klinger from the old show "Mash" and ship it one part at a time to Mexico. 

 

 

 

It can't be imported into the US for the same reason it can't stay in Canada. 

 

I appreciate everyone's concern about this bike but I've looked at all the options, I know what possible and what's not. For the last year, everyone that heard about the crushing or export requirement has offered up a suggestion or opinion on it. To be honest, I'm exhausted with the conversation. I've gone through the 5 stages of grief with this and am comfortably in the acceptance stage and I hope everyone else can be too 😉

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Cruizin
1 minute ago, Camel ADV said:

It can't be exported into the US for the same reason it can't stay in Canada. 

 

I appreciate everyone's concern about this bike but I've looked at all the options, I know what possible and what's not. For the last year, everyone that heard about the crushing or export requirement has offered up a suggestion or opinion on it. To be honest, I'm exhausted with the conversation. I've gone through the 5 stages of grief with this and am comfortably in the acceptance stage and I hope everyone else can be too 😉

Ok, I'll cancel the letter to Prime Minister Trudeau. 

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SKIPNOMAD
19 hours ago, Camel ADV said:

If I can figure out a way to export this euro T7 to Mexico instead of keeping it's date with the crusher, that's an easy decision!

 

I bet Mexico will let you send anything to them for the race.

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Camel ADV
6 minutes ago, SKIPNOMAD said:

I bet Mexico will let you send anything to them for the race.

Getting the bike into Mexico to race it isn't an issue, it's getting it "officially" out of Canada. Unfortunately, driving the bike across the Canadian border and into the US doesn't cut it. I need official export paperwork from Canada to fulfilled the requirement. It will need to be imported somewhere else to make that happen. 

 

 


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4 minutes ago, Camel ADV said:

Getting the bike into Mexico to race it isn't an issue, it's getting it "officially" out of Canada. Unfortunately, driving the bike across the Canadian border and into the US doesn't cut it. I need official export paperwork from Canada to fulfilled the requirement. It will need to be imported somewhere else to make that happen. 

 

 

People lose things in boating accidents all the time.

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