Has anyone been able to aquire a Yamaha diagnostic tool / softwere?

[iKeoxD]

I have been doing some research on the yamaha dignostic softwere and have found out you need a usb with the program on (torrent?) and cable setup to connect the bike to a pc, it looks like the part numbers from the service manual are,

 

Yamaha diagnostic tool USB 90890-03267

Yamaha diagnostic tool (A/I) 90890-03262

 

 

Has anyone used this softwere or is friendly enough with a dealer to aquire it and share.

Yamaha Diagnostic Tool Video

i prefer fixing my own bike ordering my own parts i have heard some people are being charged mad prices to have there bike connected to this ydt for reseting components after replacing faulty parts/bleeding abs pump etc... 

 

Edited February 6, 2021 by iKeoxD

[Landshark]

Those are very expensive tools.  Although they would be nice to have.  I Googled them and they do come up.  Do you need to use that for a bunch of repairs?  

[bmacw]

The DynoJet PowerVision 3 unit for T7 can read codes, live read/record some of the data and clear codes. That's on top of the ability to flash tunes. Worth a look

[WalterT]

The T7 uses OBDII for diagnostics and the like. Its the 3 pin cable under the seat. If its just about reading sensors and resetting errors, a cheap (or even home made) cable and Bluetooth OBDII unit with a phone app will do the trick (ebay/Aliexpress, also local suppliers). Shouldn't set you back more than 25$/20€.

 

 

[Landshark]

2 hours ago, Hogan said:

To be clear, the Yamaha Diagnostic Tool and OBD are two completely different things.

It's unlikely any aftermarket scan tool will be able to access the Yamaha diagnostics.

Up until several years ago Yamaha built the diagnostic function into the bike itself and you accessed it through the dash. The YDT is a fairly new thing.

 

A standard OBD tool is enough to access fault codes and point you to the problem. The YDT's main purpose is to make testing of suspect components quicker and easier to save cost and time for professional mechanics. Almost all tests you can do, you can do in other ways, which is how we did it before specialised 'dealer tools' came into fashion.

 

You don't need it for regular maintenance or most repairs.

You don't need it to bleed the brakes.

You don't need one ;)a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree.  And how often would one use such tools on his or her own bike.  Sometimes it may be worth paying the mechanic if the cost of tools are exorbitantly high.  I don't think this engine is a real concern for high priced repairs from what others are saying.  

[Spuzvica]

10 hours ago, bmacw said:

The DynoJet PowerVision 3 unit for T7 can read codes, live read/record some of the data and clear codes. That's on top of the ability to flash tunes. Worth a look

I have the pV3 but is useless for this purpose as the codes that it reads are in a format with absolutely no documentation so you have no idea what they mean.

 

Ask me how i know...

[didier]

 @Spuzvica How do you know  ?

Don't they match with codes in mantainance manual?

[Spuzvica]

21 hours ago, didier said:

 @Spuzvica How do you know  ?

Don't they match with codes in mantainance manual?

No, they do not at all. See 

 

[AZJW]

On 2/11/2021 at 10:49 PM, WalterT said:

The T7 uses OBDII for diagnostics and the like. Its the 3 pin cable under the seat. If its just about reading sensors and resetting errors, a cheap (or even home made) cable and Bluetooth OBDII unit with a phone app will do the trick (ebay/Aliexpress, also local suppliers). Shouldn't set you back more than 25$/20€.

 

 

Maybe the US version is different, but the OBD plug on mine is a 4 pin connector.  

 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, AZJW said:

Maybe the US version is different, but the OBD plug on mine is a 4 pin connector.  

 

Is yours a 2021, I heard someone saying the newer 21 models have a 4 pin connector while the former models use one with 3 pins. Could not verify that but will check as soon as my bike arrives.

[didier]

OBD2 is atleast 4pins 2 for data and 2 for battery power. Dont think  3 pins for data transfer diagnostics exists.

[Doc Brown]

2 hours ago, didier said:

OBD2 is atleast 4pins 2 for data and 2 for battery power. Dont think  3 pins for data transfer diagnostics exists.

Correct, the older models have a 3 pin connector, the OBDII is 4 pin.

[WalterT]

14 hours ago, AZJW said:

Maybe the US version is different, but the OBD plug on mine is a 4 pin connector.  

 

Apologies, 4-pin indeed. 

[AZJW]

On 2/17/2021 at 12:26 AM, Doc Brown said:

Is yours a 2021, I heard someone saying the newer 21 models have a 4 pin connector while the former models use one with 3 pins. Could not verify that but will check as soon as my bike arrives.

Yes. Mine is a 2021 US model.  Here's the adapter cable I picked up that fit my 4 pin connector. Full disclosure,  I haven't yet tried it with my OBD tool as it's currently buried somewhere in our packing boxes, but I have every confidence it'll work.

 

 

Update: I located my Bosch OBD model 1100 reader and tried out the cable. Worked fine, reported no codes and showed running data properly.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088TLYHQT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_6CHCW3TSS7QFRC4845HY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Edited February 19, 2021 by AZJW
Cable tested

[Doc Brown]

Many thanks, I will get such a cable too.

[JayD]

This seems like the correct thread for this question:

 

Does anyone know what they check when they use the diagnostic tool? Only error codes (which I assume would have resulted in a «check engine» light on the dash?) - or do they tune things to proper spec?

[Firebolter]

48 minutes ago, JayD said:

This seems like the correct thread for this question:

 

Does anyone know what they check when they use the diagnostic tool? Only error codes (which I assume would have resulted in a «check engine» light on the dash?) - or do they tune things to proper spec?

The ODB tool only reads codes and can clear them, but doesn't tune anything. What things to do you mean tune to proper spec? If you mean fueling, timing and such you need a ECU mod or some kind of tuner like a PowerVision 3 to modify the settings in the ECU.

[JayD]

30 minutes ago, Firebolter said:

The ODB tool only reads codes and can clear them, but doesn't tune anything. What things to do you mean tune to proper spec? If you mean fueling, timing and such you need a ECU mod or some kind of tuner like a PowerVision 3 to modify the settings in the ECU.

When I wrote «they» I ment the dealer, my bad. When the dealer does a service and uses the Yamaha diagnostic tool, do they ‘only’ check for fault codes (and corrects them if needed), or do they do anything to the fueling, timing and such?
 

I’ve seen people report that their throttle is a lot less jerky after the dealer did the first service. I was curious if this was due to any tuning at this step, or could it just be new oil, or something else?

 

I ask because I’m trying to decide wether I should do the service myself or let the dealer do it. I also ask because I learn a ton, which I am very thankful for.

 

Thank you for answering!

Edited March 31, 2021 by JayD

[Firebolter]

Ah, I see what you mean, thanks- If the dealer did something that smoothed out throttle response they could have uploaded a new tune to the ECU, but I have not heard of any new tunes out there that Yamaha is pushing, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it should say onm the work order if they flashed the ECU and did update it. I guess they could have maybe tuned in the TPS or something? Bottom line is, if they did change something, they needed more than the ODBII scan tool to do that. They would need the Yamaha Maint tool that allows them to get into the ECU.

 

I personally do not take my bike to a dealer for maint. I do my own oil changes and such. It is ridiculous what they charge to do a simple scan if you are having an issue. You buy this cable and a cheap ODBII reader and you can see what codes may be tripped and that could lead to you to a fix if needed if you experience some issue.

Edited March 31, 2021 by Firebolter

[JayD]

On 3/31/2021 at 4:53 PM, Firebolter said:

Ah, I see what you mean, thanks- If the dealer did something that smoothed out throttle response they could have uploaded a new tune to the ECU, but I have not heard of any new tunes out there that Yamaha is pushing, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it should say onm the work order if they flashed the ECU and did update it. I guess they could have maybe tuned in the TPS or something? Bottom line is, if they did change something, they needed more than the ODBII scan tool to do that. They would need the Yamaha Maint tool that allows them to get into the ECU.

 

I personally do not take my bike to a dealer for maint. I do my own oil changes and such. It is ridiculous what they charge to do a simple scan if you are having an issue. You buy this cable and a cheap ODBII reader and you can see what codes may be tripped and that could lead to you to a fix if needed if you experience some issue.

Okay, since I’m not having any issues, there’s no reason for me to have the dealer run the diagnostic tool just because the manual says so in the maintenance chart? The rest of the service I‘m doing myself.

 

Thanks for all your help!

[iKeoxD]

i need to bleed my abs pump and have zero way of achiving this.