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What is that bike your riding? 
 

You going to get a R7? I hope you do and report back here about it! 

 

 

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5 hours ago, DT675 said:

What is that bike your riding? 
 

You going to get a R7? I hope you do and report back here about it! 

 

Oh, my current ride is my little pony:

 

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A XSR700 from 2016, so I am more or less prepared what to expect regarding CP2 performance and capabilities.

 

My actual plan is to go for a R7 this winter. Expected release here and knowing the sales price will be around October? Hope it will be something in Euro, what was already announced for the US in Dollar. A price above 10 kEUR will bring back into discussion the Aprilia offerings. So I will wait what Yamaha Germany thinks where to place the R7.

 

Next possible track days will be in spring or summer next year. Which means, that a possible ride report will take a while 😉

 

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I like it! I wish we had more CP2 offerings in the US- XSR700/ Tracer 700.  

 

That sounds like a good plan. And yes, the Aprilia “middle weight” offerings are very compelling. I hope you keep us posted on what your doing!  

 

 

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The R7 will sell like hotcakes.  It's  sexy, it's cheap, and the CP2 is a great street engine.  The T7's implementation is very, very different from the MT07, and I'd expect the R7 to differ as well.   After all, look at how well the MT07 sold, and there's a lot of people who didn't buy in there because they're more into the sportbike aesthetic.  

 

 To this day, my old MT07 is one of the single most fun street bikes I've ever ridden, and is the major driving point behind why I got a T7, despite the gearing and power curve being wildly different.  Much like the XSR700, that low RPM torque, and frenzied low end acceleration on a super light chassis makes it feel screaming fast - and it's much faster than a T7.   

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No, middleweights...

 

The shown Dorsoduro is at least as heavy as the T7, if not even heavier. We were talking about middleweight street bikes, something about 170 to 180, max. 190 kg ready to ride.

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7 hours ago, hombacher said:

No, middleweights...

 

The shown Dorsoduro is at least as heavy as the T7, if not even heavier. We were talking about middleweight street bikes, something about 170 to 180, max. 190 kg ready to ride.

Yes, middleweights...  "middleweight" is usually used in reference to displacement, (c.c.'s). So to me a 900cc Aprilia, in a world where 2300cc+ heavyweights roam around, is a middleweight. Just hope you dont run across a well sorted aggressively ridden one on your pony during a track day. 😢

 

 

 

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On 9/21/2021 at 4:18 PM, DT675 said:

I like it! I wish we had more CP2 offerings in the US- XSR700/ Tracer 700.  

 

That sounds like a good plan. And yes, the Aprilia “middle weight” offerings are very compelling. I hope you keep us posted on what your doing!  

 

Since two or three weeks, Yamaha Deutschland (Germany) pinned the price tag to their R7 offerings. It is 9449 EUR for the black or blue one, and 9849 EUR for the 60th anniversary. The price is inclusive tax and preparation fee, or what is the term, out of the door price?

 

Anyhow, that is quite okay, maybe some successful negotiation or some goodies on top. For me I have a R7 60th on order now, to be delivered in spring 2022.

Think it is still the better package compared to a RS660 which is about 11050 EUR out of the door. Maybe some better Aprilia deals will follow, the selling is not so good or far away from expectations. Especially when I hear that a dealer close to me has 30 RS + 30 Tuono still on stock, will get a little close to get them all rid this year.

Better package means, I know what I buy, if it is a Yamaha. New 660 Aprilia did already some serious recalls incl. complete engine change. This is not so trust building. There is some more nominal power, but on the negative side loads of (for me) not needed electronic aids. I feel good with my decision.

 

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On 9/27/2021 at 2:18 AM, Fazemon said:

Yes, middleweights...  "middleweight" is usually used in reference to displacement, (c.c.'s). So to me a 900cc Aprilia, in a world where 2300cc+ heavyweights roam around, is a middleweight. Just hope you dont run across a well sorted aggressively ridden one on your pony during a track day. 😢

 

 

 

 

...seriously?

 

Aprilia Dorsoduro is a heavy, low powered lame duck, low in sales figures, you can find a lot of them here as a used one. Better and more requested bikes are the thumpers of KTM/Husqvarna and if you like it big, it is a Ducati Hyper Moto. Nut never ever that heavy pig of an Aprilia.

 

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On 5/19/2021 at 7:08 PM, Hogan said:

Interesting idea. I suppose if the riding position is more sport touring it could be an ok bike. But a 700cc SS with a high torque motor that puts out a pathetic 70 odd hp, no thanks. My 30 year old VFR 750 makes 100hp and leaves the T7 for dead. I would not call this R7 'progress'.

 

There are a few other tweaks to the engine, it's not exactly the same as the T7 or MT07. I am interested in the assist/slipper clutch though, which could possibly be retrofitted to the T7 or MT07.

Many people place too much importance on power and think the bike is only as fast as it's HP specification. In the land of canyon riding the R7 will be fast, but most importantly fun to give a thrashing. 

Just fit a sweet exhaust pipe to get the sound track and a $240 2WDW tune to get it breathing and the perfect throttle response. It would be pretty much as good as it gets.

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17 hours ago, hombacher said:

 

...seriously?

 

Aprilia Dorsoduro is a heavy, low powered lame duck, low in sales figures, you can find a lot of them here as a used one. Better and more requested bikes are the thumpers of KTM/Husqvarna and if you like it big, it is a Ducati Hyper Moto. Nut never ever that heavy pig of an Aprilia.

 

Really pony boy? And I bet you think your little 72 hp pony is a real beast! All yap and no go! If you dont like Noale, that's ok, but at least have a real reason. Now go on, giton down to the barn...🐴

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On 9/23/2021 at 8:39 AM, Wintersdark said:

 To this day, my old MT07 is one of the single most fun street bikes I've ever ridden, and is the major driving point behind why I got a T7, despite the gearing and power curve being wildly different.  Much like the XSR700, that low RPM torque, and frenzied low end acceleration on a super light chassis makes it feel screaming fast - and it's much faster than a T7.   

I sure wish the T7 was a little more like how you describe the XSR/MT07.  I could use just a little more punchy bottom end. 

 

 

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On 10/11/2021 at 9:48 AM, DT675 said:

I sure wish the T7 was a little more like how you describe the XSR/MT07.  I could use just a little more punchy bottom end. 

I suspect (but cannot confirm) that a flash would make a big difference.  The T7 feels pretty de-tuned stock, I believe to get that super linear tractorlike powerband.  

 

Of course, there's other factors.  A massive difference in weight: 452 lbs for a base T7 before the inevitable crash bars etc, vs 397 lbs for the MT07, which often is reduced with farkling rather than increased.  And the T7's anti-squat design works really hard at keeping the front end down and planted, so it's much more likely to just push forward rather than stand up.  That was kind of a disappointment for me personally, I'm not gonna lie: The MT07 will straight up power wheelie in first, second, and third if you're just riding really aggressively, not even clutching it up, or loading/unloading the suspension.  In terms of actual torque it's very similar, but these two differences heavily impact how it feels in practice.  

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Right. That’s a lot of factors to consider between the 3. I don’t have one but have ridden a late model MT07. It didn’t float my boat but I did like the feel of the power output especially down low. 
 

Concerning this thread, I’m betting the R7 will be a whole different feeling machine again, over all 3 of the other CP2’s. I’d love to throw a leg over all of em.  

 

 

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