Puncture repair

[Jason]

So with my new tenere and my new found love of driving a motorbike off road it brings something to mind. What to do if you get a puncture while riding on the mountainside? What do you guys carry and can you recommend some products? I have mountain biked for years and understand punctures will be inevitable. Bit easier dealing with one on a mountain bike though I'm assuming. 

[slawmir]

For me riding without a center stand the biggest challenge is to lift the bike to dismount the wheel. I always carry home made portable folding chain saw, it's very small dimension. I can cut precisely a piece of wood, a stick to suport and lift the bike. If wood is not available I can use stones to lift the bike, to do so the skid plate has to be strong enough. The OEM one is not.

[NickT7]

I ask myself the same thing.  Putting a tire off and putting it on is a tough job.  I have heard people who use slime tires sealant with a small hole in the tube.  Whether this really works, well I do not know but it is much easier than loosening a tire from the rim. With bigger punctures you have to change your innertube for sure

[Aleksandar13]

I would be also interested to know if there is anything out there that provides a solution for tube tyres... Something that will work without carrying 10kg of tools with 

[ADVUSA]

46 minutes ago, Aleksandar13 said:

I would be also interested to know if there is anything out there that provides a solution for tube tyres... Something that will work without carrying 10kg of tools with 

Based on my research in the past, there is only the spray can stuff which I don't advocate / recommend.

I believe finding a place for a few tools is the best option. If you have a centerstand your all set, otherwise I would get one in the future. Once on the stand, you only need a few tools to get the wheel off, a couple GOOD tire irons and a good walk-through done.

I opted to carry a 'cyclepump' with me on any Trips outside the area.

Comes in handy for the car too - as I don't have to go to a station for air.

Lifetime warranty.

CyclePump

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CyclePump® EXPEDITION Tire Inflator Here at BestRest we’ve made a lifetime commitment toward getting you back on the trail as quickly as possible after you get a flat tire.  That’s what makes a CyclePump a CyclePump.  US Patent D800,788. July 18 2017:...

 

 

I don't want all the expense of Tubeless, and there is risk if you bent a rim if your alone and out in the weeds,

OR what if it 'just happens to leak' with bad luck coming off a jump?

 

For me, I'd rather have a good plan, a few tools / tube and hope for the best.

On my KTM I made custom brackets off the rear rack to hold a PVC tube that held a spare tire tube.

I also have PVC tube off the front.

 

I'll have the heavier luggage on the T7 so I'll just figure it out.

 

 

cheers

Edited December 31, 2019 by ADVUSA

[Aleksandar13]

I was thinking to get a pump as well... This might get you to tyre service if the puncture is not too large... 

Lifting the bike of the ground with one of them small jacks might be the travel solution for people like myself who are not happy to have a centre stand... 

I haven't taken a motorcycle tyre off in my life so this is another thing that probably needs tools and attention... 

Oh well.. I'm hoping not to be put into this situation at the moment.. I have roadside recovery for now

[ADVUSA]

10 minutes ago, Aleksandar13 said:

I was thinking to get a pump as well... This might get you to tyre service if the puncture is not too large... 

Lifting the bike of the ground with one of them small jacks might be the travel solution for people like myself who are not happy to have a centre stand... 

I haven't taken a motorcycle tyre off in my life so this is another thing that probably needs tools and attention... 

Oh well.. I'm hoping not to be put into this situation at the moment.. I have roadside recovery for now

My current bike has no center stand. I modified a 'Crutch' used for a broken leg,  and ensured it would jack up the front and rear of the bike.

 

[Aleksandar13]

Just now, ADVUSA said:

My current bike has no center stand. I modified a 'Crutch' used for a broken leg,  and ensured it would jack up the front and rear of the bike.

 

I would definitely want to see some pictures of that... If you don't mind...

[ADVUSA]

motorcycle+crutch+jack - Google Search

 

Cheers

Edited December 31, 2019 by ADVUSA

[slawmir]

2 hours ago, NickT7 said:

I ask myself the same thing.  Putting a tire off and putting it on is a tough job.  I have heard people who use slime tires sealant with a small hole in the tube.  Whether this really works, well I do not know but it is much easier than loosening a tire from the rim. With bigger punctures you have to change your innertube for sure

 

Easy way sometimes means more dangerous. About year ago I got puncture in front wheel when I was on motorway. I wasn't aware that something is wrong at speed 120-130 km/h. I realized that when I was on the curve. It was very hard to stay on the bike, very dangerous situation.

It's hard to evaluate how big is the puncture, when you don't see the tube .

I always change tires in my bikes  manualy at home, just to be  well skilled. It's not easy, but it gives me a lot of experience and confidence. It can be useful far away from home.

 

48 minutes ago, ADVUSA said:

Based on my research in the past, there is only the spray can stuff which I don't advocate / recommend.

I believe finding a place for a few tools is the best option. If you have a centerstand your all set, otherwise I would get one in the future. Once on the stand, you only need a few tools to get the wheel off, a couple GOOD tire irons and a good walk-through done.

I opted to carry a 'cyclepump' with me on any Trips outside the area.

Comes in handy for the car too - as I don't have to go to a station for air.

Lifetime warranty.

CyclePump

---

CyclePump® EXPEDITION Tire Inflator Here at BestRest we’ve made a lifetime commitment toward getting you back on the trail as quickly as possible after you get a flat tire.  That’s what makes a CyclePump a CyclePump.  US Patent D800,788. July 18 2017:...

 

 

I don't want all the expense of Tubeless, and there is risk if you bent a rim if your alone and out in the weeds,

OR what if it 'just happens to leak' with bad luck coming off a jump?

 

For me, I'd rather have a good plan, a few tools / tube and hope for the best.

On my KTM I made custom brackets off the rear rack to hold a PVC tube that held a spare tire tube.

I also have PVC tube off the front.

 

I'll have the heavier luggage on the T7 so I'll just figure it out.

 

 

cheers

PVC tubes are very strong, I've made a tool tube for my Dr650.

[Noel McCutcheon]

4 hours ago, ADVUSA said:

 

CyclePump

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CyclePump® EXPEDITION Tire Inflator Here at BestRest we’ve made a lifetime commitment toward getting you back on the trail as quickly as possible after you get a flat tire.  That’s what makes a CyclePump a CyclePump.  US Patent D800,788. July 18 2017:...

 

Thanks for the air compressor pump info and link. Just ordered 

[ADVUSA]

2 hours ago, X Plane said:

Thanks for the air compressor pump info and link. Just ordered 

Your welcome. Sometimes I research too much, but the flat tire scenero is worth it.

 

That's the best / most reliable pump I could find !  (lots and lots of reading).

 

Plus, it's warrantied for life. Can't beat that.

I use it on my bike, car, and and an elderly persons car.

What a dream pump.

You'll love it.

(a few more months...)

 

 

 

 

 

[Jason]

7 hours ago, ADVUSA said:

Based on my research in the past, there is only the spray can stuff which I don't advocate / recommend.

I believe finding a place for a few tools is the best option. If you have a centerstand your all set, otherwise I would get one in the future. Once on the stand, you only need a few tools to get the wheel off, a couple GOOD tire irons and a good walk-through done.

I opted to carry a 'cyclepump' with me on any Trips outside the area.

Comes in handy for the car too - as I don't have to go to a station for air.

Lifetime warranty.

CyclePump

---

CyclePump® EXPEDITION Tire Inflator Here at BestRest we’ve made a lifetime commitment toward getting you back on the trail as quickly as possible after you get a flat tire.  That’s what makes a CyclePump a CyclePump.  US Patent D800,788. July 18 2017:...

 

 

I don't want all the expense of Tubeless, and there is risk if you bent a rim if your alone and out in the weeds,

OR what if it 'just happens to leak' with bad luck coming off a jump?

 

For me, I'd rather have a good plan, a few tools / tube and hope for the best.

On my KTM I made custom brackets off the rear rack to hold a PVC tube that held a spare tire tube.

I also have PVC tube off the front.

 

I'll have the heavier luggage on the T7 so I'll just figure it out.

 

 

cheers

Excellent, will be ordering this pump. Thanks for the link

[ADVUSA]

7 minutes ago, Jason said:

Excellent, will be ordering this pump. Thanks for the link

You will be most happy, guaranteed.

And no, I don't work for 'Bestrest' products - but I should !

(have a plan for sand...   )

 

 

[XR_mike_T]

Changing a tube is annoying but solves the issue 

a few rocks and a non center stand bike is up for rear at least but do need two people 

My set, tested on rear tire so far:

Motion Pro:  BeadPro Tire Bead Breaker  + T6 Combo Lever 27mm - not the easiest but does the job and small and light, a 27mm socket would be nice

was missing a Tire Valve Stem Fishing Tool Puller - and my knuckle show it 

and a pump (got the rechargeable type which failed) that a passing car helped with  - ordered Dynaplug Ultra Compact which got good reviews for the price 

a tube  

For front tire add: 12mm wrench (brake caliper and axle bolt), 19 mm Allen (a socket is an option)

 

 

 

[Totti]

I have two good tire levers attached to the crash bars and a good bicycle pump (with air pressure meter) under the rear rack and patches under the seat. And of course the tools to get both wheels off the bike. Sometimes I have a puncture sealant with me. I have the spare inner tubes with me only in longer travels.

During the 15 years of motorcycling I have had only three punctures. On the first time I patched the inner tube, on the second time I used the foam to get back to the civilization and on the third time I called a towing service. I was only an hour away from home and my insurance covered the towing. 

I think that the lower tire pressures you use on the gravel, the bigger are the chanced of a puncture. And you can't be prepared for everything. And you will always get help, from the people or from your friend.

Edited January 2, 2020 by Totti

[Aleksandar13]

5 hours ago, Totti said:

I have two good tire levers attached to the crash bars and a good bicycle pump (with air pressure meter) under the rear rack and patches under the seat. And of course the tools to get both wheels off the bike. Sometimes I have a puncture sealant with me. I have the spare inner tubes with me only in longer travels.

During the 15 years of motorcycling I have had only three punctures. On the first time I patched the inner tube, on the second time I used the foam to get back to the civilization and on the third time I called a towing service. I was only an hour away from home and my insurance covered the towing. 

I think that the lower tire pressures you use on the gravel, the bigger are the chanced of a puncture. And you can't be prepared for everything. And you will always get help, from the people or from your friend.

What sealant would you recommend... I will take a pump and spare tubes with me , maybe a sealant if this will get me to next destination...but I am not keen on changing tyres on the side of the road myself...and I am not planning any off-road so hopefully I won't need it...:) 

[Totti]

23 hours ago, Aleksandar13 said:

What sealant would you recommend... I will take a pump and spare tubes with me , maybe a sealant if this will get me to next destination...but I am not keen on changing tyres on the side of the road myself...and I am not planning any off-road so hopefully I won't need it...:) 

Don't know if I used the right name. By "sealant" I mean a puncture repair foam. I think that they are all equally good (or bad). It will repair a small puncture and get to out of the forest. The patches I have with me are just regular bicycle (or car) puncture repair patches. Don't if they are called that? I recommend that You practice the tire change in your garage. It's easier there than in the forest accompanied by a million mosquitoes. It's not a skill of force, it's a skill of technique.

[Jason]

Anyone reckon it would be worth changing to a tubeless setup and then carrying plugs
 

I wonder what sort of cost would be associated? Stock wheels compatible etc. 

Edited January 3, 2020 by Jason

[WalterT]

9 hours ago, Jason said:

Anyone reckon it would be worth changing to a tubeless setup and then carrying plugs
 

I wonder what sort of cost would be associated? Stock wheels compatible etc. 

 

[Jason]

10 hours ago, WalterT said:

 

Nice one Walter, will check it out.