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New 2020 T7 - quirky transmission?

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253T7

Hi all - new to the forum and new to the T7. Looking forward to being part of the community.

 

I am a new owner of a 2020 T7! Have owned a lot of motorcycles but this is my first Yamaha and also my first "new" bike, I have never had to take anything through the break in process before.

 

Curious about the behavior of the transmission. Right from mile one the shifting seems pretty klunky, especially compared to other bikes I have owned. Upshifts make a substantial "thunk" going into gear. Downshifts can get sticky going from 4th down, if I am at a dead stop it sometimes requires a little clutch manipulation to get it into neutral. Gearbox also has kind of a whine when decelerating.

 

So i'm wondering if should I be worried about this? I am only 80 miles into the break in, will the gearbox settle down after a while or do these things sound like a potential problem? Is this just the nature of the beast and I need to find the sweet spots for fluid gearbox function? All fluids are where they need to be and the bike functions wonderfully aside from these issues. I took my test ride on a different T7 a week earlier but I was so caught up in the thrill of the moment I can't recall if the transmission behaved the same way. I really love this thing, hoping it's not a mechanical problem right out of the showroom.

 

Any info and expertise is appreciated. Thanks!

 

 

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Stevoh

I've been through the same issues, according to my dealer it's "normal", it improved after first service, I have around 2000 km on my bike now and it has improved even more, although I still get a false neutral now and then, there has been a few words written on this subject in this forum.

Others have stated changing engine oils to full synthetic helped a great deal.

Like yourself I've never had a bike that needs such a heave into next gears, but I'm used to it now.

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Raindog

Mine was the same. Clunky upshifts, and downshifts often found false neutrals. It got better closer to the first service, but after the service it was much better. Now, after 4500 km it is getting very good. It still can happen that I get a false neutral, but it is  not something that happens a lot.

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253T7

Good to know, guess i'll sit it out for a while and see what transpires. The full synthetic is a great tip also, will give that a try.

 

Thanks for the input!

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TimG

Hmmm mine was nice from the get go. Easy and positive shifting. No false neutrals. Nice slick gearbox. Maybe mention it to your dealer so it’s ‘on record’ and see how it beds in. Cheers.

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Making James May look quick!

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loneranger700

Mine had a lot to do with changing my oil at around 200 miles. Not really needed, but I noticed shifting went a lot smoother when I changed it sooner.

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Alain2

Transmission needs break in, it will get better. The first oil change after break in is very important as the oil shears a lot in the process.

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174ktm

I just rolled over 1100 km on mine. Transmission seemed to break in around 700-800 km and seems fairly smooth. 

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Canzvt

7000kms now, 3rd oil change, and smooth as butter. 

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I think I have Yamaha disease...

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253T7

Called the dealership today and spoke to the service manager. He said they have not heard of any similar transmission issues from other T7 customers, recommended I bring it in for a look and a test drive by some of their guys who have a lot of experience with the T7 and MT07. Probably get it up there sometime this week, will update with what happens. 

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Ol'crazy
3 hours ago, 253T7 said:

Called the dealership today and spoke to the service manager. He said they have not heard of any similar transmission issues from other T7 customers, recommended I bring it in for a look and a test drive by some of their guys who have a lot of experience with the T7 and MT07. Probably get it up there sometime this week, will update with what happens. 

 

Will be interesting to know what say that guys.

 

In my case, after near 7.000km and having changed oil to a full synthetic one, the things are better, but far of can be compared with butter. 

 

The tension adjustment of the clutch and the precission with the combination of throttle-clutch  during the changes helps higly, but continues to be rough and noisy in many times.

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Stevoh
On 9/16/2020 at 1:56 PM, Canzvt said:

7000kms now, 3rd oil change, and smooth as butter. 

Great to hear your smooth gear change, can I ask, was your bike suffering the same transmission issues as others have stated before you racked up 7k?

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Canzvt

Yep. Notchy, missed shifts, false neutrals. Now, nothing. Haven't found a false neutral or missed a shift in 2500kms. Shifts like my WR450 (which means think about shifting and it does). I tend to be a lazy shifter. I don't actively shift/lift the lever, more like nudge it or prod it. Would never get out of first gear on a Harley...😆


I think I have Yamaha disease...

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Matth

The better you bed them in with smooth consistent gear changes the better they get. Changed the oil at 250 and 700 and again at 3500. Mine is superb. If you rant them and push the selection method hard they can scratch the shafts internally, this has to be done hard tho for this to happen.

 

if your stationary and your in 4 th lets say dont force the gears down. Let the clutch out lightly with foot on gearstick and let it click down. The engine and box are legendary strong.

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