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prwatts

Hi guys,  can you just drop one in?  They save 2kg.

 

I heard that Lithium Batteries have a different charging rate and max voltage and are NOT interchangeable with Lead Acid unless the battery has its own built-in charge controller.

 

One Australian on the " Yamaha T7 Tenere 700 World Raid - Global Group" called me silly for asking this question, but AFAIK the bike (eg KTM) has to be designed for the Lithium Battery.  It is not so simple as to drop the battery in, is it??  Or am i indeed being silly?

 

Don't want my New Best Friend catching fire like a Dreamliner....

 

Peter

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Cruizin

I put Lithium batteries in every bike that I own. YOu can put an lithium in any bike, no issues.  Dropping weight is like adding more power, actually better than adding more power because it actually reduces strain on your engine. 

 

Here is a link to a ton of em on Amazon Link Lithium Batteries

 

 

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al700

Anyone installed a lithium battery yet? Are there any warranty issues? 

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Rich TT

I've also put JMT Lithium batteries in all my recent bikes from a 140cc Honda Cub special to an Aprilia Tuono V4R. All have worked faultlessly and start the bikes very well as the cranking power is often more than lead-acid. You do need a specialist charger though, assuming you need to charge them.

 

A lithium battery is on the list for the T7. They save so much weight.

 

Rich

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Ten7

Why did I wait so long like 5 years I was having warm engine start issues on my 08 busa the other day I finally put in a lithium battery problem solved not to mention 3 kg less weight if I get the T7 I will defiantly consider  putting  one in 👍 

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al700
13 hours ago, Rich TT said:

I've also put JMT Lithium batteries in all my recent bikes from a 140cc Honda Cub special to an Aprilia Tuono V4R. All have worked faultlessly and start the bikes very well as the cranking power is often more than lead-acid. You do need a specialist charger though, assuming you need to charge them.

 

A lithium battery is on the list for the T7. They save so much weight.

 

Rich

I am thinking of the JMT but I read that the Shido battery has more  cold start cranking amps (Cold Cranking Amps: 240A) while the JMT has Starting current 190 A...so does the Shido look better?

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tonyubsdell

hi peter,

 

you are not so wrong with your idea. my ktm 1290 adventure r did not support the lithium ion type battery. my dealer had to exchange it against a conventional one again. he says, the charging system cannot cope with this kind of battery. 

 

regards,

wolfram

 

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prwatts

Thanks Wolfram, 

I want to be sure that the bike can charge it properly. I believe you CAN use a Lithium battery IF you get one with a built in charge-controller, which ensures that the bike does not overcharge it.  But I would like confirmation.  Yes it is a 3kg saving but it's a very expensive 3kg and there is nothing wrong with the Yuasa supplied with the bike. 

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Phaedrus

The whole trend towards Lithium battery is a waste of money to save a few kilos while throwing out a perfect good battery (replacing the OEM). If and when the battery needs replacing is a different story.

My last bike (2013 V-Strom 650) was sold this year after ~50,000 kms with the original unit still going strong. Secret? Connect an intelligent charger everytime the bike was going to be idle for over a week. 

 

Travel back to 2012, the battery of a brand new 1200 GS did not last a year. Why? Initial FULL charge never done by dealer - more common than one may think - and no using a charger afterwards. A quick spin to Starbuck does not charge a battery. Lesson learned!

 

A whole different can of beans if one just want to farkle up for glory! Go for it and make your inner kid happy.😎

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Motoadventure

Cheers for the advise you saved me a few quid. 

 

Mick 

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TimmyTheHog
On 10/28/2019 at 4:42 AM, Phaedrus said:

<snip>

Travel back to 2012, the battery of a brand new 1200 GS did not last a year. Why? Initial FULL charge never done by dealer - more common than one may think - and no using a charger afterwards. A quick spin to Starbuck does not charge a battery. Lesson learned!

<end snip>

You have no idea how many dealers - bike and car out there have no clue about the initial full charge...

recently my parents' minivan suffered from that when they replaced the battery a year ago. Now the battery is DEAD!!!...thank god for consumer's warranty.

 

Although I have my dealer add the fluid in for all my older bikes (warranty issue apparently), I always make sure it is fully charged before I first crank it over...simple yet quite overlooked issue for sure...

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