Installing heated grips

[roygilbo]

On 3/31/2021 at 6:23 PM, Tazmool said:

Hello everyone,

This is just a quick tip to help you get a general idea of doing this install yourself.
In this example I'm installing a set of 130mm Koso Apollo heated grips.

To remove the oem grips, you can cut them off, but its quite easy to get the OEM grips off with out damaging them and saving them for later.

Remove any bar protectors you have, and the bar-end weights.

To get the OEM grips off:
You will need a bit of heat (hair dryer, or heat gun set to low) will do. 

Then you will need a fairly stiff and thin metal rod.  A thin welding rod does the trick very well. 

Bend the rod 90 degrees, and insert it under (the warmed up) rubber grip, slowly push it all the way through (rod must be in the entire length of the rubber grip).
Next, Rotate the rod (spin the rod using the 90 degree bend you put in it) and the rod will travel all the way around the handlebar, lifting the grip from the bar (you will have to apply quite a few rotations on the rod before it makes it all the way around the handle bar)

Once you have one full revolution around the bar (leaving the rod in), try to remove the grip by pulling on the thick end (end closest to the switch gear)
The grip should move part of the way off quite easily, if it becomes stuck, rotate the welding rod until it travels a full rotation around the bar again, then try to get the grip off again.  

 

Repeat until the grip comes off.  It may take a few tries, but it will come off.

 

 

Installing the new grips is much easier than removing the old, just wet the bar using grip glue (the glue should come with the grips, also wear latex/nitrile gloves as the glue sticks to skin very well) and insert the grip to the desired position) 

 

Make sure you are happy with the heated grip power wire location as once the glue sets, you will not be able to adjust the angle.  The glue sets quickly, think about where you want the grips to be.
I prefer the wire pointing nearly straight down.

 

 

Repeat for the clutch side. 

 

Once you have both grips on, its time for a power-on test (make sure the grips actually work)
Just connect the grips to the controller and a power source, any 12v battery will do, a handy one is sitting under the front seat.

 

It takes a little while,

But the grips get nice and toasty!

 

Next, is to route the power cables and connect to the T700 harness. 
The routing is entirely up to you, make sure to leave enough slack around the steering head for the cables to not bind when you turn the handlebars fully left-right.  

 

Next, the 12v connector.

Yamaha has a nice connector for this purpose under the right (throttle) side fairing.

 

 

The bike uses a Sumitomo MT 090 3-pin 2.3mm Male/Female connector (yellow arrow is pointing to it)


(In Photo, Male side is on the LEFT, female side is on the RIGHT)
The Female end is for/on the bike harness side.

The heated grip wiring side (male side) connector housing is there as well and is for the grip wiring.
You will have to remove it from the bike harness, and pull out the little black plugs

 

 

At this stage you can just get an entire Female side plug (they are around $2-3)

 

Or just get the the male terminals and wire plugs (you would need 2 each, they are around 17 cents)

 

 

I had a bunch of the terminals around and used those and the plug housing that came with the bike.

 

Insert the terminals into the plug housing paying attention to the polarity/position of the terminals.
On the bike side, the black wire is ground, other two wires are both positive (you can use either positive wire)
On the grip side, you should have a black and red wires, ground and positive.

 

 

Connect the plugs, use some electrical tape to seal the grip cable and plug, and provide some strain relief for the cable. 

 

 

 

Test the grips again (you will need your ignition on for this), then re-assemble your bike.

 

Enjoy!

 

Tazmool

 

I went to a dealership and an electronics store and the bike shop said the japanese manufacturers don't sell any of this and the electronics store just said "what manufacturer and do you have a part number cause there are hundreds".  Talk about useless.  Question: The male terminals and plugs, can you help me with more details of either sizes or other info that describes the male terminals and plugs that I can go back to the shop?  

Many, many thanks.  You have a great tutorial here and the pics are awesome.  

[jdub53]

5 hours ago, roygilbo said:

I have Heat Demons but they do not include the heat shrink metal insulator.  Is that imperative?  

I've installed other brand grip heaters on other bikes that didn't come with the left bar insulator either. In those cases, I put several wraps of electrical tape around the handlebar prior to installing the heating element. I'm sure the tape helped as an insulator, but I've never done a comparison with and without any insulator. 

[jdub53]

5 hours ago, roygilbo said:

I went to a dealership and an electronics store and the bike shop said the japanese manufacturers don't sell any of this and the electronics store just said "what manufacturer and do you have a part number cause there are hundreds".  Talk about useless.  Question: The male terminals and plugs, can you help me with more details of either sizes or other info that describes the male terminals and plugs that I can go back to the shop?  

Many, many thanks.  You have a great tutorial here and the pics are awesome.  

Using the excellent info from @Tazmoolin the first post in this thread, I was able to find all of the required pins and connectors on-line with a Google search. I don't have info available for the vendor I used but the prices were very reasonable.  

[roygilbo]

5 hours ago, jdub53 said:

I've installed other brand grip heaters on other bikes that didn't come with the left bar insulator either. In those cases, I put several wraps of electrical tape around the handlebar prior to installing the heating element. I'm sure the tape helped as an insulator, but I've never done a comparison with and without any insulator. 

I will be installing Pro Taper Pillow Grips over the warmers.  Just concerned about how difficult it becomes with extra layers like tape or insulation.  

[roygilbo]

5 hours ago, jdub53 said:

Using the excellent info from @Tazmoolin the first post in this thread, I was able to find all of the required pins and connectors on-line with a Google search. I don't have info available for the vendor I used but the prices were very reasonable.  

Did you just eyeball it from his info to get the correct size connectors? (Electrical is not my strong point, I have a buddy helping once I get parts) 

[jdub53]

3 hours ago, roygilbo said:

I will be installing Pro Taper Pillow Grips over the warmers.  Just concerned about how difficult it becomes with extra layers like tape or insulation.  

Not difficult at all since you should already be using something as a lubricant to slide the grip on over the tape or shrink tubing plus heating elements. They only increase the bar diameter by a tiny amount. I've always used a liberal amount of rubbing alcohol, which secures the grip well once it completely dries but allows the grip to be removed and reinstalled again if the need arises down the road.

Edited January 27, 2022 by jdub53

[jdub53]

3 hours ago, roygilbo said:

Did you just eyeball it from his info to get the correct size connectors? (Electrical is not my strong point, I have a buddy helping once I get parts) 

I'm afraid I don't understand the question since @Tazmool  's post even provided what part numbers and what size connectors to purchase...

Edited January 27, 2022 by jdub53

[roygilbo]

5 hours ago, jdub53 said:

I'm afraid I don't understand the question since @Tazmool  's post even provided what part numbers and what size connectors to purchase...

Thank you.  

[roygilbo]

5 hours ago, jdub53 said:

Not difficult at all since you should already be using something as a lubricant to slide the grip on over the tape or shrink tubing plus heating elements. They only increase the bar diameter by a tiny amount. I've always used a liberal amount of rubbing alcohol, which secures the grip well once it completely dries but allows the grip to be removed and reinstalled again if the need arises down the road.

You don’t use grip glue? 

[Wintersdark]

2 hours ago, roygilbo said:

You don’t use grip glue? 

Not him, but I don't.  The throttle tube already has ridges that hold grips well, and a layer of electrical tape around the left bar handle increases the diameter enough that I've never had an issue with them slipping.  

 

Mind you, I've only installed Oxford Heaterz on my bikes, but every bike I've ever owned (excepting my Tracer, which came with factory heated grips) has got a set.  A rap of tape on the off hand, otherwise just cram em on.  Then they can come off again, though in all honesty it's EXTREMELY rare for me to need to remove them. I think I've done that exactly once, when replacing a handlebar. 

[jdub53]

9 hours ago, roygilbo said:

You don’t use grip glue? 

Nope, never.

[AZJW]

No to grip glue here as well.  It was mentioned on the first page to use compressed air to aid in grip removal along with first using a long, thin screwdriver to break any seal the grip might have, great method I use. For installation,  I've always used liberal amounts of hair spray to lube the inside of the grip to help slide it on.  Once the hair spray dries, it aids in grip retention,  but has never been a pain when it comes time to remove them.  The one time I used grip glue, it was grip destruction time when removing them so, I switched to hair spray for good. I recommend the Aussie brand, but just don't let the Mrs. catch you!

[roygilbo]

30 minutes ago, AZJW said:

No to grip glue here as well.  It was mentioned on the first page to use compressed air to aid in grip removal along with first using a long, thin screwdriver to break any seal the grip might have, great method I use. For installation,  I've always used liberal amounts of hair spray to lube the inside of the grip to help slide it on.  Once the hair spray dries, it aids in grip retention,  but has never been a pain when it comes time to remove them.  The one time I used grip glue, it was grip destruction time when removing them so, I switched to hair spray for good. I recommend the Aussie brand, but just don't let the Mrs. catch you!

Brilliant.  Thanks to you @AZJW, @jdub53and @Wintersdarkfor your advice and experiences.  

[roygilbo]

On 1/27/2022 at 12:12 PM, jdub53 said:

I'm afraid I don't understand the question since @Tazmool  's post even provided what part numbers and what size connectors to purchase...

Hey @jdub53 I am up here in Canada and wherever @Tazmool and you are located, you have a much better selection/options to purchase these than I do.  

[jdub53]

5 hours ago, roygilbo said:

Hey @jdub53 I am up here in Canada and wherever @Tazmool and you are located, you have a much better selection/options to purchase these than I do.  

 

Here's the source I found via Google search of the info Tazmool had provided, along with a screen print of those items from about 3/8 of the way down the page on this link:

 

Motorcycle MT .090 Sealed Series - Connector and Terminals (cycleterminal.com)

 

 

 

I'm in the U.S., and don't know what to tell you if this doesn't work for you. Good luck.

 

[roygilbo]

16 hours ago, jdub53 said:

 

Here's the source I found via Google search of the info Tazmool had provided, along with a screen print of those items from about 3/8 of the way down the page on this link:

 

Motorcycle MT .090 Sealed Series - Connector and Terminals (cycleterminal.com)

 

 

 

I'm in the U.S., and don't know what to tell you if this doesn't work for you. Good luck.

 

Thank you! 

[SKunn]

Aliexpress connectors

[Justi]

On 4.10.2021 at 01.15, jdub53 said:

Jatkona yllä olevalle viestilleni asensin tänään Heat Demon -lämmitetyn kääresarjan T7:ään. Vasemmanpuoleinen kutistemetallieriste näytetään sellaisena kuin se tuli ulos pakkauksesta ja asennettiin lämpöpistoolilla.

 

Olen käyttänyt näitä sarjoja useissa pyörissä, ja ne toimivat hyvin. Pidän parempana otteen alla olevista lämmitinkääreistä, koska 1) saan käyttää valitsemiani kahvoja ja 2) en välitä muiden sarjojen mukana tulevista suuremman halkaisijan kahvoista. Helppo asentaa kahdella lämpötasolla, ja ne toimivat yhtä hyvin kuin OEM-lämmitetyt kahvat GS:ssäni.

 

 

Hi,

Did you reinstall the original Grips? If you installed, how did you get them to go in place? I'm going to do as you did. Thank you for the information.

[Burnsey]

Just as an aside, please ensure you use enough/additional glue.

 

My clutch side started rotating this weekend only a month or two after install.

[Ray Ride4life]

2 hours ago, Burnsey said:

Just as an aside, please ensure you use enough/additional glue.

 

My clutch side started rotating this weekend only a month or two after install.

Mine too and it interfered with my clutch.

First it was just a little rub and because it went normal i thought it was just some filth on the engine side.

Later it was a complete blockage and then i noticed the grip turned and the cable got in between the handlebar and clutch lever.

Very annoying.

[jdub53]

3 hours ago, Justi said:

 

Hi,

Did you reinstall the original Grips? If you installed, how did you get them to go in place? I'm going to do as you did. Thank you for the information.

 

No, not the original grips. I bought my T7 used, and it already had AME MX Round grips installed in place of the Yamaha grips. I liked the small diameter and soft, grippy texture of the AMEs and decided to reuse them.

 

I was able to remove the AME grips by slowly working them off of each side, and then I reinstalled them over the Heat Demon heating elements the same way I install all my grips: I used a liberal amount of rubbing alcohol on each bar and inside of each grip, then quickly slid the grip on with the alcohol acting as a lubricant. One positioned properly, I let the alcohol fully dry for a day which firmly bonds the grip to the handlebar but still allows it to be removed and reinstalled again if ever necessary. I've never used grip glue on any bike, and have never had unwanted grip movement issues using the alcohol method. 

 

Edited February 7, 2022 by jdub53

[Burnsey]

1 minute ago, Ray Ride4life said:

Mine too and it interfered with my clutch.

First it was just a little rub and because it went normal i thought it was just some filth on the engine side.

Later it was a complete blockage and then i noticed the grip turned and the cable got in between the handlebar and clutch lever.

Very annoying.

 

There's no danger of anything catching and I exaggerated a little in 'rotating'. It is just moveable and needs either some glue injecting with a syringe, or I will whip it off, reapply and popit back on.

 

When we did them, my mate insisted not to use loads of glue. I would have slapped it everywhere - I think I was right...

[Toppie]

On 4/1/2021 at 2:23 AM, Tazmool said:

 

Next, the 12v connector.

Yamaha has a nice connector for this purpose under the right (throttle) side fairing.

 

 

Thank you...........just the info I was looking for!

Saved me some exploration.

[SKunn]

Tried hairapray, spray laquer, a bit of polyurethane and superglue. Finally they stayed in place using  expanding polyurethane on entire grip lenght.

Always matted the surfaces and cleaned with solvent.

[tonusmaximus]

On 3/31/2021 at 9:23 PM, Tazmool said:

130mm Koso Apollo heated grips.

any reason why these cant be installed so that the wire comes out from the top of grips?   reason for asking is the atlas throttle lock with lower buttons requires it...