2024 RedBull Romaniacs on T7s

[Camel ADV]

18 hours ago, qInvention said:

I join those above and wish you all the best and a quick and above all complete healing, so you can continue with all the maniac stuff we others appreciate so much when watching your videos 

 

Romaniacs will still be there when you're back on the bike.

 

But seriously Cory... Did you really need to grow any taller 

 

I would have taken 3/4" more in leg length... torso height is of limited use!

[mpatch]

28 minutes ago, Camel ADV said:

It's beyond concerning. "Hey foot, move upward" and you get no response. Hopefully, it heals or I find a work around cuz this kinda sucks! 




 

For me I had mostly full strength and mobility downwards but not up with my foot or my toes. 
It definitely sucks. 

5 years later and my calf and outside of my lower leg are still numb for lack or a better way to describe it…… not really numb just different in a way unless you know the feeling or lack there of you can’t describe it. 
 

[Hibobb]

6 hours ago, Camel ADV said:

I would have taken 3/4" more in leg length..

 

Next year you need to head to Japan

 

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7 hours ago, Hibobb said:

 

Next year you need to head to Japan

 

What the actual F%$K?! Leg lengthening surgery?? I can't imagine the pain and drama of getting muscles, tendons, nerves, etc, to adapt to that franken-surgery!

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13 hours ago, mpatch said:

For me I had mostly full strength and mobility downwards but not up with my foot or my toes. 
It definitely sucks. 

5 years later and my calf and outside of my lower leg are still numb for lack or a better way to describe it…… not really numb just different in a way unless you know the feeling or lack there of you can’t describe it. 
 

I hope this goes away once the swelling goes down and the nerves grow out.... cuz this sucks! Sorry to hear you've been dealing with it for 5 yrs
 

[disco2000]

@Camel ADV Hi Cory! Unfortunately I am on the same boat with you and totally feel you.

I have a fully functional right leg but dropfoot on the left.

Had the first dropfoot (due to disc herniation) back in 2009. After a small surgery in the back to release any pressure on the nerve, the foot recovered partly. So I could still walk fine and lift up / down gears. The toes were not lifting up and had (still have) to live with this. Back pain was horrible up to now (I had back pain and issues for 20 years as well and I am a tall guy 1.92m).

Back in January 2023 had another dropfoot due to disc herniation. Long story short: had a fusion surgery (not moving discs like you have) 5 months ago (October 23). Examined all scenarios and this type of surgery was the best treatment for my case.

At the same time they released the nerve canals from any pressure. Sorry for lacking medical terms, I am an engineering guy.

 

Back pain disappeared and my whole leg feels stronger and has started obtaining mobility. I am at the point that I can walk without brace and confident I will not fall. So I see progress.

 

I am telling you all these for 3 reasons as it took me lot of time and energy to find out through these years. Is not so common case and difficult to find specialist doctor/surgeon.

 

- the faster you accept what has happened to you the easier will be your life in general. Is not bad to address to a psychologist.

- even during the night sleep, the nerve should not be stressed. So, try to talk to a doctor and fix a custom 90 degrees brace for the sleep. It really helps and is part of the healing.

- I really hope it will recover on it's own. But in case it doesn't, there is a treatment and is called "dropfoot ligament reconstruction". They transfer tendons, so you obtain some mobility.

 

In general give it time and keep us posted!

Romaniacs 2025 will be there, hope you participate then!

[AZJW]

In keeping thread drift alive, I'll offer my .02 worth, hopefully with Corey's approval. Back pain sufferers I'm sure are well represented here given the abuse our bodies take horsing around 450 lbs of weight off-road. I've suffered back pain off & on for 40 years, using Chiropractic treatments to get me through the rough patches. For many years, my sciatica was somewhat in check until November of 2021 when it reduced me to being bed ridden for months, barely able to walk. Sitting and heaven forbid I had to sneeze, which was absolutely unbearable,  sent the pain meter off the scale. 

 

My Doc said get an MRI and gave me the name of his favorite surgeon,  yikes!  I told him thanks, but I was going to pursue all other options before consenting to surgery. I found a book " Back Mechanic" written by the guy who helps injured Olympic weight lifters rehab their injured backs, Dr. Stuart McGill.

 

Still in pain, but determined to find a surgical alternative,  I read it cover to cover a couple of times and started with his exercises and body mechanics recommendations. I slowly got better with freedom of movement with decreasing pain and after a few months I was fairly mobile and able to ride again relatively, but not completely pain free.   I've done his exercises religiously every morning ( takes less than 15 minutes) and have been functioning well without any Chiropractic visits or pain meds for 2+ years.  

 

I still have my days where I can tell bouncing off rocks would be a bad idea, but those are getting fewer and fewer as time goes on.  I would hope someone reading this gives this option a try as knowing everyone is different,  but for around $35 this might just be the help someone needs. Besides, this is endorsed by Al Bundy, so if it's good enough for him, it's gotta be ok, right?

 

I'm not affiliated with Dr. McGill in any way,  just a satisfied customer and an active participant in self healing that has worked for me. Good luck to Corey and all who are trying to get back in the game!

 

Back Mechanic: Fix Back Pain With The Step-By-Step McGill Method

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Fix back pain with the Back Mechanic book as it guides you through self-assessment of your pain triggers, then shows you specific exercises to rehabilitate.

 

 

 

 

[Hibobb]

@AZJW I am 100% with you on stretching and exercise. Obviously some people need more, but for a lot of people this helps immensely (me being one).

As a side note: In my 30's one of my riding buddies was a chiropractor... what a shyster. No respect for the profession after know him for a few years. Now that is just my experience... other will swear by their success. 

 

Here is a PDF link to the book you mentioned:

 

Back Mechanic - Stuart McGill -Director's Cut Edition-1.pdf - Google Drive

 

Edited March 15 by Hibobb

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18 hours ago, disco2000 said:

@Camel ADV Hi Cory! Unfortunately I am on the same boat with you and totally feel you.

I have a fully functional right leg but dropfoot on the left.

Had the first dropfoot (due to disc herniation) back in 2009. After a small surgery in the back to release any pressure on the nerve, the foot recovered partly. So I could still walk fine and lift up / down gears. The toes were not lifting up and had (still have) to live with this. Back pain was horrible up to now (I had back pain and issues for 20 years as well and I am a tall guy 1.92m).

Back in January 2023 had another dropfoot due to disc herniation. Long story short: had a fusion surgery (not moving discs like you have) 5 months ago (October 23). Examined all scenarios and this type of surgery was the best treatment for my case.

At the same time they released the nerve canals from any pressure. Sorry for lacking medical terms, I am an engineering guy.

 

Back pain disappeared and my whole leg feels stronger and has started obtaining mobility. I am at the point that I can walk without brace and confident I will not fall. So I see progress.

 

I am telling you all these for 3 reasons as it took me lot of time and energy to find out through these years. Is not so common case and difficult to find specialist doctor/surgeon.

 

- the faster you accept what has happened to you the easier will be your life in general. Is not bad to address to a psychologist.

- even during the night sleep, the nerve should not be stressed. So, try to talk to a doctor and fix a custom 90 degrees brace for the sleep. It really helps and is part of the healing.

- I really hope it will recover on it's own. But in case it doesn't, there is a treatment and is called "dropfoot ligament reconstruction". They transfer tendons, so you obtain some mobility.

 

In general give it time and keep us posted!

Romaniacs 2025 will be there, hope you participate then!

I'm getting about 2-3mm more foot movement every week at physio. The gains are good but what's more important is that it means the nerve is not severed. That's a win. It's going to take time and a lot of work but we'll get there.

Interesting comment about stressing the nerve when sleeping and the 90° brace. I have been waking up to horrendous calf cramps... the kind of intensity that literally brings tears to your eyes. Without the dorsiflexion, there's nothing to balance out calf muscle and it runs wild. I need to find a brace to keep the cramps from happening because I simply can't get back to sleep after and they seem to always happen about 3am.

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16 hours ago, AZJW said:

In keeping thread drift alive, I'll offer my .02 worth, hopefully with Corey's approval. Back pain sufferers I'm sure are well represented here given the abuse our bodies take horsing around 450 lbs of weight off-road. I've suffered back pain off & on for 40 years, using Chiropractic treatments to get me through the rough patches. For many years, my sciatica was somewhat in check until November of 2021 when it reduced me to being bed ridden for months, barely able to walk. Sitting and heaven forbid I had to sneeze, which was absolutely unbearable,  sent the pain meter off the scale. 

 

My Doc said get an MRI and gave me the name of his favorite surgeon,  yikes!  I told him thanks, but I was going to pursue all other options before consenting to surgery. I found a book " Back Mechanic" written by the guy who helps injured Olympic weight lifters rehab their injured backs, Dr. Stuart McGill.

 

Still in pain, but determined to find a surgical alternative,  I read it cover to cover a couple of times and started with his exercises and body mechanics recommendations. I slowly got better with freedom of movement with decreasing pain and after a few months I was fairly mobile and able to ride again relatively, but not completely pain free.   I've done his exercises religiously every morning ( takes less than 15 minutes) and have been functioning well without any Chiropractic visits or pain meds for 2+ years.  

 

I still have my days where I can tell bouncing off rocks would be a bad idea, but those are getting fewer and fewer as time goes on.  I would hope someone reading this gives this option a try as knowing everyone is different,  but for around $35 this might just be the help someone needs. Besides, this is endorsed by Al Bundy, so if it's good enough for him, it's gotta be ok, right?

 

I'm not affiliated with Dr. McGill in any way,  just a satisfied customer and an active participant in self healing that has worked for me. Good luck to Corey and all who are trying to get back in the game!

 

Back Mechanic: Fix Back Pain With The Step-By-Step McGill Method

---

Fix back pain with the Back Mechanic book as it guides you through self-assessment of your pain triggers, then shows you specific exercises to rehabilitate.

 

 

 

 

No reason for this thread not to drift... the Romaniacs plan is dead for this year anyway.

I got the book after your email recommendation. I haven't gotten too far into it yet... I'm busy playing catch up at the shop.

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14 hours ago, Hibobb said:

@AZJW I am 100% with you on stretching and exercise. Obviously some people need more, but for a lot of people this helps immensely (me being one).

As a side note: In my 30's one of my riding buddies was a chiropractor... what a shyster. No respect for the profession after know him for a few years. Now that is just my experience... other will swear by their success. 

 

Here is a PDF link to the book you mentioned:

 

Back Mechanic - Stuart McGill -Director's Cut Edition-1.pdf - Google Drive

 

I haven't done chiro for years; I replaced it with dry needling/IMS Gunn. I'll stop short of saying it's life-changing but it helped me way more than any other discipline of physio. it's worth a try if you can stomach it.  

[jdub53]

20 hours ago, Hibobb said:

As a side note: In my 30's one of my riding buddies was a chiropractor... what a shyster. No respect for the profession after know him for a few years. Now that is just my experience... other will swear by their success. 

 

 

Not disparaging at all your experience or statement, but following a street motorcycle accident when I was 16 it was a chiropractor who fixed me up.

 

I went down after hitting the back end of a car that pulled out right in front of me from a parking lot, and fortunately only received some minor road rash and a mild concussion from my helmet hitting the pavement. Starting a day later though, it took me several minutes to fully straighten up every time I got up from sitting down as my lower back pain increased. Saw my family doctor, who advised me only to take aspirin for the pain. 

 

As the condition and pain got worse, my father mentioned it to a friend who recommended I see a chiropractor. After the chiropractor interviewed me and saw my bent over, crooked condition after standing up he did a couple of adjustments (cracks that scared the hell out of me) to my back and neck. Getting off his table I noted immediate relief and could stand up straight again for the first time in over a week.  I was amazed, and after two more sessions the chiropractor dismissed me, saying I should be fine now (I was good enough to make it through USMC boot camp the following year).  I know not everyone enjoys such success, but I can't imagine what I would've done if I'd never gone to that small town chiropractor.

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On 3/16/2024 at 4:27 AM, jdub53 said:

 

Not disparaging at all your experience or statement, but following a street motorcycle accident when I was 16 it was a chiropractor who fixed me up.

 

I went down after hitting the back end of a car that pulled out right in front of me from a parking lot, and fortunately only received some minor road rash and a mild concussion from my helmet hitting the pavement. Starting a day later though, it took me several minutes to fully straighten up every time I got up from sitting down as my lower back pain increased. Saw my family doctor, who advised me only to take aspirin for the pain. 

 

As the condition and pain got worse, my father mentioned it to a friend who recommended I see a chiropractor. After the chiropractor interviewed me and saw my bent over, crooked condition after standing up he did a couple of adjustments (cracks that scared the hell out of me) to my back and neck. Getting off his table I noted immediate relief and could stand up straight again for the first time in over a week.  I was amazed, and after two more sessions the chiropractor dismissed me, saying I should be fine now (I was good enough to make it through USMC boot camp the following year).  I know not everyone enjoys such success, but I can't imagine what I would've done if I'd never gone to that small town chiropractor.

I used to go to chiropractors often. They'd adjust me, I'd feel good but within a day (sometimes hours), I'd be back in the same place. I found without dealing with the tense muscles that were pullings things out of alignment to begin with, chiro adjustments never stuck. Now, when I get dry needling done (not to be confused with acupuncture), the muscles are dealt with (even the ones too deep to get with massage) my back realigns itself without the chiro... and the results stay far longer. YMMV.

[Windblown]

I'm just catching up on things around the water cooler. Sorry to hear all this stuff.  Heal up now, ride better later.   I've become acutely aware in the last couple of years of the need to take the time to address underlying wear & tear issues rather than continue to throw myself headfirst at the wall.  I know it sucks to have to take a pause but the results will likely make it all worthwhile.  Good luck! 

[Hibobb]

(Disclaimer) My experience with Chiropractors is soured, not all are quacks and if gives you relief then it is good for you.

 

It must have been in the early 90's when my buddy quit being the assistant parts manage at a motorcycle dealership and within three years became a "Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine".

There was always the Secretary checking you in and putting you have a "roller table" to massage your back while you wait (another charge of course). Then he would show up and talk about himself for a while. As always, he would crack the neck, then later fold your leg over the other one and crack your back. Want to see you again for maintenance. Hand you a photocopied page from a stretching book and tell you to do these. Then talk about the vitamins he was selling (Fish oil, Shark cartilage, greet tea enemas (joking on the last one).

Within a few years be added pressure point medicine to his skill set. He had a thing like a "click style ball-point pen" that he would push on an area and make a clicking noise/feeling. He was telling me the he could reduce cold and flue symptoms with this.... This was all around when time when the magazine "Consumer Reports" came out with the story on Chiropractic care. The article was cautious with what they could say, but other than saying the chiropractors were the most common first choice for people in the USA, it wasn't overall flattering.

 

OK, I will get off my soap Box now. Do what works for you. Everyone is different and there are different ways that work for some and not others. 

 

@Camel ADV "Dry Needling" yikes. But looking at your back x-rays, I can see you going to extremes for help.  I hope you can find relief and I will think twice before I whine about any age related arthritic pains I might have.

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[Hollybrook]

@Camel ADV I watched your video yesterday. I'm sorry that you are still having issues that linger longer than expected, but not having back pain is a blessing. Best of luck on a full recovery!

 

Your team at CamelADV is fantastic and I would never have known that you were sidelined if you didn't tell us. I think that is a testament to their leader! 

[Charles De Mar]

I broke my ankle and sprained my right foot last September. (Try kick starting with that). I’m not blessed with a favorable inseam. I don’t have drop foot, but supporting the bike on my tip toe is impossible. It’s getting better but very frustrating. 
 Hope you are doing better Cory. 

[AZJW]

Holee Crap!  I just watched this, had no idea you had that much history with back pain. Those are the kind of helo rides Nobody wants!  As @Hollybrook said, at least the surgery has helped with that pain.  As others have said good JuJu headed your way for recovery and improved quality of life.  As an aside,  after your post op side effects details, I'll never look at Avocados quite the same!