Tenere 700 Indicator / Flasher Relay Location

[CReamflourish]

Does anyone happen to know the location of the flasher relay and how much of the bike I have to tear down to get to it?!

 

I'm looking at changing my indicators for LED's and I'm looking at swapping the stock relay for something like this:

 

R&G LED Flasher Relay : OEM block for Honda, Kawasaki & Yamaha

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R&G LED Flasher Relay : OEM block for Honda, Kawasaki & Yamaha

 

I think it will be a neater solution than using additional resistors.

 

Cheers, Mike

[Rich TT]

I think the Yamaha ones have resistors built in, so they're plug and play. I remember my Aprilia Tuono ECU controlled them, so no need for resistors either. Some LEDs may also have them built in. I'd recommend checking/trying before you rip the bike down as you may not need to.

[CReamflourish]

Hi Rich,

I'm aware that the Yamaha ones have built in resistors, but I'm probably not going to use them. However, I wasn't aware that other aftermarket ones might also have them built in, so that's something worth knowing and I'll definitely check up on!

Cheers.

[Motoadventure]

The Yam ones have a resistor on each one I think but do not come with the plug attached. I had to cut the female part off the existing indicators  and splice the wires. I found this a b it of a faf and disappointment that Yamaha could not have just put the correct connectors on. its a bit of a job to strip the bike down but good practice for when you have to/  

 

Hope this is of use.  Mick   

[CReamflourish]

@Motoadventure yes I read that somewhere, I think might have even been from something you posted in another thread on here!

 

That’s part of the reason why I probably won’t use the Yam ones, i figure if you need to faff around like that with genuine stuff then there are other options available.

 

I’m planning on using some adaptor leads to get me from the bullet connectors you typically get to the Yam plugs on the loom. Something like these:

 

Cheers, Mike

Edited January 30, 2020 by CReamflourish

[MG700]

Flasher relay is under the seat on RHS

U don’t need to change blinkers

R10 LEDs bulbs are cheaper (10€ for four vs 150€) and brighter than OEM 9led blinkers.

Easy change (just one srew) no need of rerouting wires, resistors or adaptors.

Edited February 8, 2020 by MG700

[CReamflourish]

I relented and picked up a set of genuine Yamaha LED flashers today, but there is no way that my OCD can deal with all those resistors and bullet connectors.

 

So I replaced the stock relay with one of these:

Bike It Led Winker Relay Oem Connector | J&S Accessories

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LED Indicators work to a to a lower wattage than standard bulb-type indicators. To avoid rapid flashing it may be necessary to replace the existing relay with a specially designed LED relay with the correct wattage. This LED Winker relay OEM connector is for Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha motorcycles. E

 

 

I reused the  original rubber mount and a cable tie mount it in the original position.

 

I've got a full set of 'Indy Leads' on order and I'm going scavenge the OE style connectors to solder and heat-shrink onto the new indicator leads so they plug straight into the loom..... basically how Yamaha should have done it!

 

@MG700 - thanks for pointing me in the right direction for the flasher relay location. 

[MGG]

Does anyone have the details on the type of bulb Yamaha uses for turn signals ?

The service manual provides only wattage ... "Front turn signal light 10.0 W × 2"

 

I was hopping to upgrade those to LED ... and possibly have both DRL and turn signals combined ... 

[MG700]

please look on my comment

its r10 bulb

[Lupan]

I got this ones, they say don't need the relay...

 

[TimmyTheHog]

27 minutes ago, Lupan said:

I got this ones, they say don't need the relay...

 

So this thing has all the relay build in the light which means no need to mess with the OEM relay?

[Lupan]

I didn't install them yet... Probably this weekend i'm going to do it at least the front ones to see... These are 10 € from China with love... But they are not small, more or less like the Yamaha extra...

Edited February 13, 2020 by Lupan

[TimmyTheHog]

1 minute ago, Lupan said:

I didn't install them yet... Probably this weekend i'm going to do it ar least the front ones to see... These are 10 € from China with love... But they are not small, more or less like the Yamaha extra...

Can't wait for your report

[MGG]

5 hours ago, MG700 said:

please look on my comment

its r10 bulb

I can't seem to find the bulb type "R10" ... anyone have picture, sizing or link showing compatible LED?

I am not familiar with the "R10" standard ... maybe there is another number like BA15S ?

 

Maybe the R10 has nothing to do with the actual bulb type ... but more with wattage

I did find an indication for R10 here: https://www.lightbulbs.com/product/ge-23322

GE Incandescent Miniature / Automotive Light Bulb (2 pack) (23322)
#R10W - 10 watt - 13.5 volt - G6 - Single Contact Bayonet (BA15s) Base

 

 

Could it be similar to the MT-07 ... https://www.lightbulbs.com/automotive/2018-yamaha-mt-07-replacement-light-bulbs

Eiko Incandescent Miniature / Automotive Light Bulb (40935)
#7443 - 1.85/.44 amp - 13.5 volt - T6 - Maxi Wedge Double Filament (W3x16q) Base

 

 

Since the T7 is so low tech it probably is the cheapest possible.

Can someone confirm if the original Turn signal bulb is a single connector with a bayonet base ? ...   or maybe a dual connector base for the front and a single connector for the rear ?

And the replacement could be the 1156/BA15S/P21W

 

[Tazmool]

Good thread and discussion, 

One of the very early mods will be to pull the oem blinkers and replace with an led set, and replacing the relay is always the way I do it on my bikes (except maybe the very first change over I did waaaay back on a fzr600) 

 

Tazmool

[bikeever]

I like these old school flashlights. Keep it simple

[MG700]

sorry my mistake

its not r10

should be RY10w BAU15S

Edited February 14, 2020 by MG700

[bikeever]

This is OEM bulb for EU version, 12V 10W
 

 

Edited February 14, 2020 by bikeever

[Gezgin Endurocu]

On 2/13/2020 at 10:02 PM, TimmyTheHog said:

So this thing has all the relay build in the light which means no need to mess with the OEM relay?

I change my signal with this chinese things first off all tail of the bike is really problem too much work...if you want this signals work correctly cancel original flash relay on the bike otherwise they dont work correctly...slim signals are really looking good if you have money buy yamaha original ones but too expensive in my country...ı hope chinese things wont be break down in a short time...

[Tazmool]

CReamflourish, I have a question that maybe you, or someone else could answer, 

The original yamaha flasher relay, did it have a pig-tail wire with the connector on the end?  (idential to the relay you replaced it with)
or was it just a plastic box, with the connector right on it? 

Reason I ask is that I have a led relay for my other yamaha, but it does not have a pig-tail on it, its this one:

(that tst relay is nifty as it also has an adjuster where you can manually adjust the flashing speed)

 

If the oem Tenere 700 relay has a pig-tail, it may be difficult or impossible to use the tst relay? 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Tazmool

 

 

[CReamflourish]

@Tazmool the original flasher relay doesn't have a pig-tail, it is a direct plug-in type like the TST one you've found.

 

I can see from their website that the body has a mounting clip on the side of it which appears to be the same as the OEM one, so you should be golden to use it with the OEM mounting rubber in the stock location.

 

 

I might look at getting myself one!

 

Hope that helps.

 

Cheers, Mike

[Tazmool]

Ahh!  Excellent!

Thanks for the info, and making my day!

Tazmool

[ScorpionT16]

Does anyone know if signals for the MT-07 will work on the T7?

 

Thinking of these on ebay.

 

The Yamaha LED ones are not available in Canada, and are costing over $400 just shipped. I contacted Cyclops Lights and they said they will work on LED signals when they get a bike. So just looking at getting something as a simple, plug and play, no relays or too expensive for the time being to replace the giant ones us Canadians got as signals. 

Edited May 16, 2020 by ScorpionT16

[Whitey66]

14 minutes ago, ScorpionT16 said:

Does anyone know if signals for the MT-07 will work on the T7?

 

Thinking of these on ebay.

 

The Yamaha LED ones are not available in Canada, and are costing over $400 just shipped. I contacted Cyclops Lights and they said they will work on LED signals when they get a bike. So just looking at getting something as a simple, plug and play, no relays or too expensive for the time being to replace the giant ones us Canadians got as signals. 

They look exactly the same as mine. I'm fairly certain the ones fitted to Aussie T7's are MT-07 blinkers, we get the clear outer lens type.

I know they fit on the bike because I put a modified MT-07 tail tidy on my T7 and used my standard blinkers.

I like the look of the smoke lens type.

[ScorpionT16]

On 2/13/2020 at 1:34 PM, Lupan said:

I got this ones, they say don't need the relay...

 

did you end up installing these, how did it go?